Stone Strike Accuracy.

harharhar · 22 Aug 2006

k, before u go thinking this is another "i can't hit with stone strike" post... this is quite the contrary.

i've discovered how to always hit with stone strike, and its not stat based.

provided is a video with proof, this is my first time making a video, so its *really* bad

but if you pay attention to my mana(which stone strike uses quite a lot of!), and the words "stone strike" appearing in the middle of the screen, u can see i only missed on one monster(out of maybe 15-20? i had multiple hits on some too), and the reason behind that is simple - lag.

if someone can tell me how to make a better video, i will be glad to make another. I will however, not tell you how to do it. Watch the video, and see if you can pick up any hints. In my opinion, i believe its a glitch, somewhat like the lion's critical/double hit. Yes, this works on any monster, and i've tested it on most monsters up till path to oops wharf.

I found this out all by myself, being fed up with how and why stone strike always misses. I tested over and over again until it finially hit me.

Why am i telling everyone this? because my school starts this weekend, and i won't have time for this, so im basically quitting, otherwise i would've kept this a secret and abused it for myself and my close friends. So far, i've only showed 3 people how to do it, the first one was when i was still working out the kinks, and the guy dind' believe me and thought i was just getting lucky, when i hit about 90%. The 2nd guy i showed, he said he thought it was pretty awesome, and he was gonna try it out on his fox. I told him to keep it on the DL, and he said he doesn' really visit forums or anything like that anyways - never heard back from this guy. The 3rd person i still play with.

Okay, back on subject. If someone can tell me how to make a better video, i will. Right now, im using Camtasia Recorder, one someone recommended when i searched for "recorder" on this forum. Fraps gives me a Trickster exceptional error whenever i hit the record button, and when i kill trickster from task manager, and try to exit out of fraps, my computer just completly freezes (i've done this 3 times before i gave up). I have a pretty crappy computer, barely meets trickster requirement, so keep that in mind to help me tweak it. When i was making this video, it was pretty hard to pull off the no-miss, but it was somewhat doable. It freezes for a split second every few seconds while recording.

My computer spec is 900 mhz, 256 mb ram, only about 2 gigs left in my hard drive.
my video card is the one that came in stock with this computer - NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64 Pro.

I'm not going to tell you how to do it, but i am willing to make videos and you may figure out the answer by yourself. I'm pretty sure u can't tell jack squat from the video i provided, so if you want a better video, ur gonna have to tell me how to make one.

If anyone asks if they're doing it right, im most likely not gonna respond, and just ignore their post. If someone *thinks* they know how, they most likely don't -- but will probably figure it out on their own in a matter of hours if they keep trying. If i see a whole bunch of posts (majority) saying "don't release this" or something along those longs, then i will no longer come back to make another video, because frankly i won't care about this game in a few days.

Here's a few hints to get you started
-works on both aggro and docile monsters
-for me, when i move to a new monster, it takes me about 5-10 stone strikes to figure out how to no-miss the new monster
-you are able to "no-miss" after your initial hit (meaning you can no-miss the same monster as many times, given he has enough hp to last your hits), the reason my video was on the addax and ninja turtles was because of the video lagging me(and i needed aprons) - its hard to keep up with doing the no-miss, drinking mana, health, and waiting for my stone strike cooldown when im dealing with monsters that can kill me on top of a laggy video recording. Should someone tell me how to make a lag-free recording, i will show you on monsters 10+ my level that will take multiple hits to go down.
-from a good recording(like if you were sitting next to me watching me play minus keyboard/mouse), it is very likely you will know how to do it.
-no 3rd party programs were used besides the recorder
-its very... not sure what word to put in here... not obvious when you do it. subtle i believe is the word. Unless you tell someone to pay attention to you, they probably won't even notice you're attempting this.
-trial and error

if anyone refers to stone strike as assassin attack or whatever in this post, ur on my ignore list. we're playing the english version, use the english words.
its past 6 in the morn for me, im tired, so there's bound to be some mistakes in my post.
perhaps in the end when no one figures it out, i will explain how to do it, however this might just be my tiredness talking right now.
im pretty sure if i don't tell anyone, someone will come up with the technique knowing that there's a way. where there's a will, there's a way
if you think that im just bluffing, and there's actually no such thing as a no-miss stone strike, okay ur right, i have no life and i kept recording until i got enough consecutive hits to show off. -end sarcasm
sorry for the long read, i needed something to do while youtube was uploading my video
after finally looking through the video, i counted one miss, and 22 or 23 hits, don't remeber, over about 17-19 monsters.
when this is all over with and someone figures out how to do it and tells everyone, i would like some appreciation from those who are actually going to use it. It took me quite a while to figure out this was possible, and even longer to perfect. And for those who didn't want anyone to know about this, and wants to damn me to hell, i don't care about u, go away.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=S-MP6cN0HvM

let the resurgence of the foxes begin.
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oh yes, and if someone can tell me how to add music to the video playing on youtube, it would be very nice, now that i watch it, i find it very dull, especially with the overall badness of the recording.

FlashOfChaos · 22 Aug 2006

Funny how I just jumped first thing after viewing this and the video to test things out. Though, it proved to be at least somewhat useful. From the looks of your video, it seems that you close in on the target, usually(Or always) face-to-face with them, before you attack.

Surprisingly, I did the same thing as I've just mentioned, and I noticed quite a bit more accuracy than before. Be that as it may, I don't know if that's your method of making SS not miss at all, because I couldn't really tell too much from that video. I also wonder if that's suppose to happen, or if it's a glitch like the Lion/DoubleShot deal.

To make it short, I tried it out on my fox, closing in as close as possible to the Anemones(Level 20) and armored rascals(Level 24 mobs), trying to make eye-to-eye contact so to speak. The amazing part, is that each SS I used when face-to-face with the monster, even if they run back, it always worked. Maybe I'm just delusional(It's 5 something over here. x_x), maybe it really does work. I tried it on the enemy's back, worked a few times, others didn't so I think the 100% seems to only work head-on. I also tested this theory out on the level 34 Anemones, and eye-to-eye contact method worked perfectly.

I didn't kill too much of the monsters I tested it on, but it was enough to make me think the way I use seems to be 100%. Because of this, my theory may be wrong. I'd say test it out for yourselves, see if it produces the same results. I'll head to bed now because I just started feeling tired after I reopened Trickster to test this out. I'll be looking forward to what others think about this subject matter. =)

Oaki · 22 Aug 2006

As u posted above, I tried to do the eye-to-eye contact. As it turns out my hitrate wits SS was like 95% or something. I only occasionaly missed , dunno why.

But i must say my accuracy with SS was already pretty high since my Fox hit lvl 20, so i dunno if it is the eye-to-eye theory or that I had allot of luck that made me hit the mobs 95% of the time....

harharhar · 23 Aug 2006

you just now have to find out how to make 90% into 100% and voila, u've made a killing machine.

If someone *thinks* they know how, they most likely don't -- but will probably figure it out on their own in a matter of hours if they keep trying.

-trial and error

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after u find that out, the *real* hard part that took me hours to perfect is hitting the enemies consecutive times. I'll post a video of me doing that in the same crappy quality unless someone offers me some hints on how to make it go smoother.

BrTarolg · 23 Aug 2006

weird.

tbh, i cant think of any reason why this should work at all.

probably a glitch in the server system or something.

Cybird · 23 Aug 2006

Originally Posted by BrTarolg

weird.

tbh, i cant think of any reason why this should work at all.

probably a glitch in the server system or something.

Maybe. This MMORPG have a lot of "tricks" like this and I hate them. It's not a good way to play, for me.

harharhar · 23 Aug 2006

it is a glitch, just like the lion's critical strike and double shot. anyone who says otherwise is just lying through their teeth and abusing the glitch.

games have bugs and glitches, that's just how life is. exploiting these bugs and glitches is up to u and ur morals.

BrTarolg · 23 Aug 2006

oh well ive tried the metheod for the last hour and it hasnt worked too well for me.

i run up close to the monster, make eyeto eye contact, and then stone strike - and i still miss about 30% of the time.

PhoenixKatera · 23 Aug 2006

Sorry but specs you listed blow pretty hard for any kind of video recording. I'm not sure what works good with TO but I have a pretty good solution my buds use to record their gaming l33tness. If you want give me your email / MSN / Whatever and I'll hook you up.

Cybird · 25 Aug 2006

Originally Posted by harharhar

it is a glitch, just like the lion's critical strike and double shot. anyone who says otherwise is just lying through their teeth and abusing the glitch.

games have bugs and glitches, that's just how life is. exploiting these bugs and glitches is up to u and ur morals.

Do you find that honest? Imagine in PvP! By using this trick, it is as if your adversary didn't have a HV. It's a cheat. I want to stop this game only for that and lion cheaters.

BrTarolg · 25 Aug 2006

well its discovered lion critical ISNT a cheat, but double shot is.

hey lions never miss either with their critical?

harharhar · 25 Aug 2006

Originally Posted by BrTarolg

well its discovered lion critical ISNT a cheat, but double shot is.

hey lions never miss either with their critical?

yes, i widthdraw my statement from criticals being a cheat.
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well this is my last day here, and i know more about trickster than i want to know. i decided its better not to release everything i know (and i know a couple more glitches than just stone strike accuracy, i'd rank this stone strike as 2nd most useful "trick")

just use ur imagination and pay attention.

k, bye now.

Jellopy · 25 Aug 2006

I noticed in the video that the monsters you were fighting were probably 5-10 lvs lower than you. Also, in other threads, they say that the more DA you have the less you miss on monsters of same or lower levels. So I'm assuming by being 5-10 lvs above the monster, you have about +5-10 DA for the monsters that level. I would have to say Myth: Plausible.

leonaheidern · 25 Aug 2006

Tried doing this on Goma's (Lvl 51) when I was 40. Didn't work too well. Now I'm lvl 47 and I miss less.

Actually. There was another method someone taught me. Its turn behind. Press Hotkey for Stone Strike, Then turn around an hit the monster. This kinda worked better for me on the Goma's.

But for Pirate Ghosts(lvl 48). I started training on those when I was lvl 27. harharhar's method works better.

Its not no miss though I still miss sometimes but at least its not 5 times in a row but 2-3 times.

harharhar · 26 Aug 2006

I noticed in the video that the monsters you were fighting were probably 5-10 lvs lower than you. Also, in other threads, they say that the more DA you have the less you miss on monsters of same or lower levels. So I'm assuming by being 5-10 lvs above the monster, you have about +5-10 DA for the monsters that level. I would have to say Myth: Plausible.

if u have ever used a fox that uses SS at all, u would know u still miss 30% of the time even on lvl 1-4 creatures.

Tried doing this on Goma's (Lvl 51) when I was 40. Didn't work too well. Now I'm lvl 47 and I miss less.

Actually. There was another method someone taught me. Its turn behind. Press Hotkey for Stone Strike, Then turn around an hit the monster. This kinda worked better for me on the Goma's.

But for Pirate Ghosts(lvl 48). I started training on those when I was lvl 27. harharhar's method works better.

Its not no miss though I still miss sometimes but at least its not 5 times in a row but 2-3 times.

my method? i don't see my method anywhere in this post. the first poster assumed that's what u do.

best of luck to u all, this will be my last post.

BrTarolg · 26 Aug 2006

meh i still dont get it

i recorded running up to a monster, eye to eye contact and getting close, and i still missed 30% of the time.

Mittchi · 26 Aug 2006

I'd almost watch that, if the fps was'nt lower than the temperature in my room.

archofflames · 26 Aug 2006

when i watched the video it was going very slowly(1 pic per second).it wouldn't let me go past 35 seconds for some reason.0_oMy freind always misses with it in jTO but he doens't lag like u did.

FlashOfChaos · 27 Aug 2006

..Apparently, the method I was using isn't it. Try other ways, because it's obvious my method isn't working. There's tons of other ways to adjust how you use SS, but since I'm not a Stone Strike fox, I won't bother caring too much about a skill I don't use as much. And seeing as how the video has horribly quality, plus the writer won't tell us how it works, I'll leave it to someone that can figure this little problem out.

DarkMessiah · 29 Aug 2006

My Stone Strike is lvl 10, and I miss like 1 outta 5 shots. So I guess as you master it, it gets better accuracy